The Beatty Subgroup

Some time ago, we were contacted by the administrator of the Beatty project. Apparently, 6 (now 7) of our participants could have an ancestor named Beatty (or a large number of Beattys could have a Winders ancestor). They are the ones which combine DYS389i = 14, DYS448 = 18 and DYS442 = 11. If you look at the DNA test results for our project, you will see these marker names heading the columns. These alleles (markers) are each a bit rare and the combination is distinctly rare. A large group in the Beatty Project has a common ancestor who lived in the border region between England and Scotland about 1300-1500. This Beatty family is part of a larger group called the Beatty-Byrne cluster (BBC) which had a common ancestor a few centuries earlier. Our experience tells us that the 6 Winders men are almost certainly part of the BBC. The BBC is in haplogroup R1b1b2a1b5, and further are positive with the relatively new SNP, L159.2.

 It appears that these Winder participants trace back to Thomas Winder (1680-1734), those being participants who descend from:

• Thomas Winder(1680-1734), b. United Kingdom
• Clement Winders (1790-aft 1858), b. MD
• Lafayette Winders (1825-1889), b. Fayette Co, PA
• James G. Winder(1794-1857), b. PA
• Thomas Winder (1814-1862), b. OH
• Henderson Winder (1813-1865), b. Coshocton, OH
  Joseph W. Winder (1837-1903) b. TN or MO